{"id":3438,"date":"2023-04-13T08:09:44","date_gmt":"2023-04-13T06:09:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musulauliba.lv\/?p=3438"},"modified":"2023-04-13T08:09:44","modified_gmt":"2023-04-13T06:09:44","slug":"sezot-burka-etiketi-neieraudzisi-izeja-ir-sarunas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musulauliba.lv\/sezot-burka-etiketi-neieraudzisi-izeja-ir-sarunas\/","title":{"rendered":"S\u0113\u017eot burk\u0101, eti\u0137eti neieraudz\u012bsi \u2013 izeja ir sarun\u0101s"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-bg-parallax\" data-bg-align=\"center center\" data-direction=\"up\" data-mute=\"false\" data-opacity=\"100\" data-velocity=\"-0.2\" data-mobile-enabled=\"false\" data-break_parents=\"0\" data-bg-image=\"https:\/\/musulauliba.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Vilmars-blums-Krista-bluma-lauliba-lauliba-1800.jpg\" data-bg-repeat=\"false\" ><\/div><div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container fusion-parallax-up nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-sizes-top:0px;--awb-border-sizes-bottom:0px;--awb-border-sizes-left:0px;--awb-border-sizes-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-padding-top:200px;--awb-padding-bottom:80px;--awb-background-image:url(&quot;https:\/\/musulauliba.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Vilmars-blums-Krista-bluma-lauliba-lauliba-1800.jpg&quot;);--awb-background-size:cover;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:calc( 1170px + 0px );margin-left: calc(-0px \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-0px \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-padding-right:11%;--awb-padding-left:11%;--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:0px;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:0px;--awb-spacing-left-medium:0px;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:0px;--awb-spacing-left-small:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center; color: #fff;\">S\u0112\u017dOT BURK\u0100, ETI\u0136ETI NEIERAUDZ\u012aSI \u2013 IZEJA IR SARUN\u0100S<\/h2>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;max-width:200px;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single sep-solid\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#f6861f;border-color:#f6861f;border-top-width:3px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><p style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 24px; color: #fff; font-weight: 300;\">Laul\u012bbas pieredz\u0113 dal\u0101s Vilm\u0101rs un Krista Bl\u016bmi<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-2 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-background-position:left top;--awb-border-sizes-top:0px;--awb-border-sizes-bottom:0px;--awb-border-sizes-left:0px;--awb-border-sizes-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-padding-top:35px;--awb-padding-bottom:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1216.8px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-1 fusion_builder_column_2_3 2_3 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:66.666666666667%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:2.88%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:2.88%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-3\"><h5>\u0160oreiz saruna par to, ka jebkuru kr\u012bzi var p\u0101rvar\u0113t, ja attiec\u012bbu kont\u0101 ir gadiem veidots uzkr\u0101jums. Bl\u016bmu \u0123imene ir vienispr\u0101tis \u2013 vi\u0146i viens otram ir tik m\u012b\u013ci, ka sapratu\u0161i, savas probl\u0113mas ir j\u0101risina, lieti vi\u0146iem pal\u012bdz\u0113ju\u0161as p\u0101ru terapijas. Krista, kas fotograf\u0113, skaisti glezno un ir mamma diviem br\u012bni\u0161\u0137\u012bgiem b\u0113rniem, jau 12 gadus ir sieva Vilm\u0101ram. Kad Vilm\u0101rs k\u0101d\u0101 foto sesij\u0101 Kristu satika, vi\u0146am uzreiz bija skaidrs \u2013 \u201cvi\u0146a b\u016bs mana sieva\u201d! T\u0101 ar\u012b notika. \u0160odien Bl\u016bmu laul\u0101tais p\u0101ris dz\u012bvo pa\u0161u celt\u0101 un iek\u0101rtot\u0101 m\u0101j\u0101, kur\u0101 atrodas vieta gan lai \u010dubin\u0101tos, gan risin\u0101tu psiholo\u0123iski dzi\u013cas sarunas, lai restaur\u0113tu k\u0101d\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b sav\u0101 va\u013c\u0101 palaist\u0101s attiec\u012bbas. Vilm\u0101rs no grafisk\u0101 dizainera savu amplu\u0101 nomain\u012bjis uz veiksm\u012bgu tetov\u0113\u0161anas meistara amatu, savuk\u0101rt talant\u012bg\u0101 Krista smejas, ka vi\u0146ai nav iebildumu b\u016bt par filantropa sievu. Ar\u012b rado\u0161ie mekl\u0113jumi un viena otra atbalst\u012b\u0161ana ir ienesusi dinamiku laul\u012bb\u0101, par kuru abi ir gatavi dal\u012bties. Sarun\u0101jas Rihards un Viktorija Kostigovi.<\/h5>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-video fusion-youtube\" style=\"--awb-max-width:800px;--awb-max-height:450px;--awb-align-self:center;--awb-width:100%;\"><div class=\"video-shortcode\"><div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\" ><iframe title=\"YouTube video player 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Z_gcyKAwDic?wmode=transparent&autoplay=0&amp;rel=0\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-4\"><p>Rihards: Es tevi, Vilm\u0101r, esmu vienm\u0113r pazinis k\u0101 grafisko dizaineri, tagad tavs amplu\u0101 ir main\u012bts, par to ar\u012b b\u016bs interesanti parun\u0101t, k\u0101 tas ietekm\u0113jis j\u016bsu attiec\u012bbu dinamiku, bet k\u0101 j\u016bs toreiz (pirms 12 gadiem) izdom\u0101j\u0101t visp\u0101r prec\u0113ties?<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: Labs jaut\u0101jums. Bija t\u0101, pirms Kristas es nebiju cilv\u0113ks ar v\u0113rt\u012bb\u0101m, biju meitu \u0123\u0113\u0123eris, k\u0101 taut\u0101 sauc. Ap 25 gadiem cilv\u0113kam izveidojas prefront\u0101lais korteks un p\u0113t\u012bjumi saka, ka tas ir tas, kas atbild par ilgtermi\u0146a dom\u0101\u0161anu un sek\u0101m. Cilv\u0113ki tad s\u0101k saprast, ka nevajag ar BMX, piem\u0113ram, skriet sien\u0101. Ap to laiku ar\u012b man s\u0101ka likties, ka nav ok tas dz\u012bves veids, k\u0101du es dz\u012bvoju. Tad es vien\u0101 foto sesij\u0101 iepazinos ar Kristu. Man vi\u0146a uzreiz lik\u0101s \u013coti interesanta persona, bet vi\u0146a taj\u0101 laik\u0101 bija kop\u0101 ar citu. Tad man bija t\u0101ds posms, kur\u0101 mana sieva, nezin k\u0101p\u0113c nav pie manis\u2026jo man bija skaidrs, ka \u0161\u012b ir t\u0101 sieviete, ar kuru es prec\u0113\u0161os. Bija tikai j\u0101atrisina, k\u0101 \u201caizv\u0101kt\u201d eso\u0161o \u0161\u0137\u0113rsli (smejas).<\/p>\n<p>Krista: Kad es iepazinos ar Vilm\u0101ru, mana pirm\u0101 saj\u016bta, bija \u201cOh, my God!\u201d \u2013 ir cilv\u0113ks, ar kuru ir interesanti parun\u0101ties. Interesant\u0101s sarunas mani tik \u013coti aizr\u0101va, ka bija pat \u0161oks, k\u0101 var b\u016bt t\u0101das sarunas ar v\u012brieti, t\u0101s bija tik dzi\u013cas un interesantas. Vilm\u0101rs bija viskautko las\u012bjis un brauk\u0101jis visur apk\u0101rt.<\/p>\n<p>Rihards: Tu vi\u0146\u0101 sastapi l\u012bdz \u0161im neredz\u0113tu dzi\u013cumu?<br \/>\nKrista: J\u0101, un v\u0113l es nov\u0113roju, ka vi\u0146\u0161 bija labs ar b\u0113rniem. Man tas bija svar\u012bgs moments, lai saprastu, ka es ar \u0161o v\u012brieti var\u0113tu ar\u012b prec\u0113ties.<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: Par to, k\u0101p\u0113c prec\u0113ties, nu dro\u0161i vien tas bija iem\u0101c\u012bts b\u0113rn\u012bb\u0101. Taj\u0101 laik\u0101 es to redz\u0113ju k\u0101 \u013coti racion\u0101lu attiec\u012bbu n\u0101kamo soli. Ar\u012b \u0161odien es t\u0101 dom\u0101ju, bet vair\u0101k izanaliz\u0113jot. Toreiz es neanaliz\u0113ju, tas bija t\u0101 iem\u0101c\u012bts, ka tie, kas pa \u012bstam ir kop\u0101, tie precas, taisa b\u0113rnus un ir kop\u0101 visu m\u016b\u017eu. Un man t\u0101 ar\u012b bija, kad es izl\u0113mu ar Kristu prec\u0113ties.<\/p>\n<p>Es jau kad pras\u012bju, vai vi\u0146a b\u016bs mana draudzene, zin\u0101ju, ka ar vi\u0146u prec\u0113\u0161os un tad \u2013 atpaka\u013c vairs neskat\u012b\u0161os. Zin\u0101ju, ka lai vai k\u0101das b\u016btu gr\u016bt\u012bbas, es kap\u0101\u0161u uz priek\u0161u. Un gr\u016bt\u012bbas, protams, ir biju\u0161as, bet zin\u0101ju \u2013 j\u0101kap\u0101 t\u0101m cauri. (V.Bl\u016bms)<\/p>\n<p>Rihards: J\u016bs esat laul\u012bb\u0101 12 gadus, jums ir meita un d\u0113ls. K\u0101 jums ir g\u0101jis t\u0101l\u0101k ar \u0161o l\u0113mumu k\u0101 diviem absol\u016bti rado\u0161iem cilv\u0113kiem?<br \/>\nKrista: Man \u013coti pat\u012bk, k\u0101 m\u016bsu psihoterapeite nosauca \u0161o rado\u0161o haosu, kur\u0101 m\u0113s ikdien\u0101 dz\u012bvojam, jo mums tie\u0161\u0101m nav nek\u0101das sist\u0113mas, kur\u0101 dz\u012bvot. Vi\u0146a t\u0101 ar\u012b teica, ka mums ir sist\u0113ma, bet t\u0101 ir haosa sist\u0113ma, kur\u0101 ar\u012b abi esam rado\u0161i. T\u0101 m\u0113s \u0161os 12 gadus oper\u0113jam \u0161\u0101d\u0101 rado\u0161aj\u0101 haos\u0101, bet kopum\u0101 mums ir g\u0101jis \u013coti labi un pat viegli. J\u0101, mums ir biju\u0161i da\u017e\u0101di smagi sitieni, jo dz\u012bve vienk\u0101r\u0161i sit gribot tev vai negribot. Bet ar\u012b tiem m\u0113s izg\u0101j\u0101m cauri \u013coti veiksm\u012bgi, viens otram pal\u012bdzot. Smag\u0101kais punkts, kas mums bijis laul\u012bb\u0101, pien\u0101ca pag\u0101ju\u0161\u0101 gada ruden\u012b. M\u0113s attap\u0101mies, ka esam nedaudz pag\u0101ju\u0161i prom viens no otra t\u0101d\u0101 paties\u0101 intimit\u0101t\u0113, kur esam t\u0101 patiesi kop\u0101. J\u0101, m\u0113s dom\u0101jam, kur\u0161 no r\u012bta kuru ved\u012bs, ko \u0113d\u012bsim, bet bij\u0101m pazaud\u0113ju\u0161ies. Bij\u0101m blakus, bet es pati pat neno\u0137\u0113ru, kur\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b tas bija s\u0101cies, l\u012bdz tika novests tik t\u0101lu, ka bija raud\u0101\u0161ana, smaga saruna un dom\u0101\u0161ana, ko dar\u0101m t\u0101l\u0101k? M\u0113s p\u0113c tam esam g\u0101ju\u0161i \u0123imenes terapij\u0101s atk\u0101rtoti, s\u0101k\u0101m t\u012bt notikumus un tikai tad saprat\u0101m, kas bija noticis.<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: J\u016bs s\u0101kot \u0161\u0137etin\u0101t, uzreiz saprat\u0101t, kas bija noticis? Reiz\u0113m t\u0101s liel\u0101s probl\u0113mas, kas ilgu\u0161as ned\u0113\u013c\u0101m tiek atrisin\u0101tas pat ar vienu sarunu, un tad abi dom\u0101 \u2013 nu sen mums vajadz\u0113ja to sarunu.<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: Mums bija nevis viena saruna, bet k\u0101das 40!<\/p>\n<p>Krista: J\u0101, Ziemassv\u0113tki bija tas laiks, kad m\u0113s katru reizi k\u0101 run\u0101j\u0101m, t\u0101 pa 4-6 stund\u0101m. Mums bija p\u0101ru individu\u0101l\u0101 psihoterapija uz vietas\u2026(smejas)<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: M\u0113s mal\u0101 nolik\u0101m piln\u012bgi visu \u2013 b\u0113rni dariet savas lietas, soci\u0101lie t\u012bkli izsl\u0113gti, TV izsl\u0113gts, nek\u0101di draugi, nekas. Tikai un vien\u012bgi m\u0113s. Rak\u0101m un katru dienu \u0161\u0137etin\u0101j\u0101m turp atpaka\u013c. Taj\u0101 decembr\u012b m\u0113s mekl\u0113j\u0101m un m\u0113s atrad\u0101m.<\/p>\n<p>Krista: Tas bija tik interesanti, mums sarunas bija visur. Vienu br\u012bdi es s\u0113\u017eu du\u0161\u0101, kaut ko mazg\u0101ju un Vilm\u0101rs ar\u012b turpat atn\u0101k, s\u0101k\u0101s saruna, nu labi, lok\u0101ciju nemain\u012bsim un t\u0101 m\u0113s \u010detras stundas norun\u0101jam. Tad t\u0101l\u0101k uz cit\u0101m nestandarta viet\u0101m turpin\u0101j\u0101m run\u0101t.<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: Bet grib\u0113j\u0101s run\u0101t abiem?<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: J\u0101, tas bija mums abiem kop\u012bgs, abi saprat\u0101m, ka joproj\u0101m esam viens otram tik m\u012b\u013ci, ka m\u0113s negribam palaist neko gar\u0101m \u2026Bija skaidrs, ka ir j\u0101risina.<\/p>\n<p>Krista: M\u0113s abi esam run\u0101t\u0101ji un tas ir daudz pal\u012bdz\u0113jis.<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: Es saku t\u0101, ka mums \u013coti daudz\u0101s liet\u0101s ir paveicies. Es nelieku baigi lielo nopelnu uz sevi, sakot, ka esam baigi gudrie. Protams, esam daudz ieguld\u012bju\u0161ies un m\u0101c\u012bju\u0161ies, bet \u013coti daudz\u0101s liet\u0101s ir paveicies.<\/p>\n<p>Rihards: Tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka savs starta kapit\u0101ls jums ir bijis.<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: J\u0101, mums ir bijis labs starta kapit\u0101ls!<\/p>\n<p>Krista: Bet ir ar\u012b gr\u016btumi, mums, piem\u0113ram, at\u0161\u0137iras m\u012blest\u012bbas valodas. Tiem, kam t\u0101s sakr\u012bt ir viegl\u0101k, nav j\u0101piedom\u0101, bet mums t\u0101s ir diametr\u0101li pret\u0113jas.<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: Sievai ir svar\u012bgi d\u0101vanas un darbi. Man atkal vajag v\u0101rdus un piesk\u0101rienus. L\u012bdz ar to man liekas, ja esmu vi\u0146u sam\u012b\u013cojis, es esmu visu izdar\u012bjis\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Krista: \u2026 bet es atkal taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b neko nej\u016btu. Man tur, l\u016bk, ir trauki j\u0101nomazg\u0101, \u0101r\u0101 d\u0101rz\u0101 vajadz\u0113tu to izdar\u012bt, un v\u0113l par b\u0113rniem par\u016bp\u0113ties, l\u016bk, tad atn\u0101k mana lab\u0101 saj\u016bta. Bet \u0161o sen apzin\u0101mies un pie t\u0101 ar\u012b str\u0101d\u0101jam.<\/p>\n<p>Rihards: K\u0101 \u0123imenes ikdienu ietekm\u0113ja Vilm\u0101ra p\u0101rie\u0161ana no grafisk\u0101 dizaina uz tetov\u0113\u0161anas m\u0101kslu?<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: J\u0101, grafiskaj\u0101 dizain\u0101 jau bija b\u016bts k\u0101dus 15 gadus un grib\u0113j\u0101s jau \u013coti prom. Nomainoties \u0161ai paradigmai, kad es beidzot atradu savu sap\u0146u darbu, es ar visu jaudu, v\u0113rienu un ener\u0123iju taj\u0101 ieguld\u012bjos. Tas pamain\u012bja \u0123imenes dinamiku, jo tagad daudz resursu aiziet dom\u0101jot par projektiem, \u0161obr\u012bd nav t\u0101, ka viss laiks autom\u0101tiski ir \u0123imenei, man speci\u0101li ir j\u0101piefiks\u0113, kur tad dom\u0101s atrodos. T\u0101 atkal ir jauna lieta. M\u016bsu attiec\u012bb\u0101s ir bie\u017ei bijis t\u0101, k\u0101 pamain\u0101s k\u0101da dinamika, dz\u012bves vieta, vai ien\u0101k b\u0113rns, vienam b\u0113rnam oper\u0101cija, un kad izmain\u0101s apst\u0101k\u013ci, ir piel\u0101go\u0161an\u0101s laiks. Tas var b\u016bt pasmags, tad ir adapt\u0113\u0161an\u0101s un tad tikai viss sak\u0101rtoj\u0101s.<\/p>\n<p>Krista: Man Dievs ir iedevis \u013coti daudz emp\u0101tiju, un es sp\u0113ju saprast otru. Es zin\u0101ju, ka vi\u0146\u0161 ir mekl\u0113jumos un kad es ieraudz\u012bju \u0161o lietu, biju p\u0101rliecin\u0101ta, ka vi\u0146am t\u0101 izdosies un san\u0101ks. Tad ar\u012b es ar\u012b ar vis\u0101m \u010detr\u0101m metos vi\u0146u atbalst\u012bt. T\u0101 es palaidu to mirkli gar\u0101m, kur\u0101 Vilm\u0101rs t\u0101 bi\u0161\u0137uc aizpl\u016bst no \u0123imenes. jo par daudz ieiet darbos. Es pati to ar\u012b palaidu gar\u0101m, jo \u013coti grib\u0113ju, lai vi\u0146am san\u0101k un izdodas. T\u0101 probl\u0113ma ar\u012b atkl\u0101j\u0101s tikai v\u0113l\u0101k, vi\u0146\u0161 bija sav\u0101 darb\u0101, es neko daudz nejaut\u0101ju, jo ar\u012b es pati aizpl\u016bdu savos hobijos un tad tas viss san\u0101ca k\u0101 viena mirk\u013ca kulmin\u0101cija.<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: Un tad m\u0113s attap\u0101mies l\u012bdz\u012bgi, k\u0101 Gata L\u012bduma gr\u0101mat\u0101 rakst\u012bts, ka p\u0113d\u0113jo reizi t\u0101d\u0101 norm\u0101l\u0101 divu dienu randi\u0146\u0101 bij\u0101m g\u0101ju\u0161i gadu atpaka\u013c.<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: Ar\u012b t\u0101 bija viena no liet\u0101m, kas izn\u0101ca \u0101r\u0101 taj\u0101s decembra 40 sarun\u0101s?<br \/>\nKrista: J\u0101, ka neesam biju\u0161i randi\u0146\u0101. Un taj\u0101 gr\u0101mat\u0101 pirmaj\u0101 noda\u013c\u0101, kur st\u0101st\u012bts par to, ka neturiet citus dievus augst\u0101k noz\u012bm\u0113 ar\u012b ka tu vari savu telefonu, darbu, hobijus tur\u0113t augst\u0101k par savu laul\u012bbu. Es sapratu, ka esam gal\u012bgi palaidu\u0161ies un ka visas lietas ir k\u013cuvu\u0161as svar\u012bg\u0101kas par pa\u0161u laul\u012bbu.<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: K\u0101p\u0113c t\u0101 notiek, pat ja zin\u0101m, ko vajag un kas pal\u012bdz laul\u012bbai? Ar\u012b j\u016bs esat daudz las\u012bju\u0161i, stud\u0113ju\u0161i.<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: Liel\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 to ietekm\u0113 cilv\u0113ka biolo\u0123ija. Cilv\u0113kam ir vajadz\u012bgas jaunas lietas, jo smadzenes pierod pie eso\u0161\u0101 un tad gribas n\u0101kamo. T\u0101p\u0113c jau ar\u012b m\u0113s skat\u0101mies jaunas filmas un mekl\u0113jam jauno. Laul\u012bba t\u0101p\u0113c ir vilt\u012bgi j\u0101kopj un j\u0101, citreiz ir gr\u016bti aps\u0113sties uz tr\u012bs stundu sarunu, jo m\u0113s jau visu esam kaut kad izrun\u0101ju\u0161i un visu zin\u0101m.<\/p>\n<p>Var b\u016bt t\u0101, ka p\u0113c ilgiem gadiem laul\u012bb\u0101 ir gr\u016bti atrast par ko v\u0113l dzi\u013ci run\u0101t. T\u0101p\u0113c tur, kur ir pierasts viss, var iest\u0101ties atsl\u0101bums. T\u0101p\u0113c viens no padomiem, ka tiem, kas ilgi ir laul\u012bb\u0101, nep\u0101rtraukti ir j\u0101mekl\u0113 kop\u0101 jaunas lietas, ko dar\u012bt \u2013 jauni restor\u0101ni, ce\u013cojumi, las\u012bt gr\u0101matas, lai ir jaunie iespaidi un ir ko p\u0101rrun\u0101t. (V.Bl\u016bms)<\/p>\n<p>M\u016bsu gad\u012bjum\u0101 tas ir izteikti, jo esam daudz kop\u0101, mums ir nosliece b\u016bt pielipu\u0161iem viens otram. Varb\u016bt tiem p\u0101riem, kas ikdien\u0101 ir daudz prom darbos, atn\u0101kot m\u0101j\u0101s un ieraugot otru \u2013 jau tas ir jaunums (smejas).<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: Es sadzird\u0113ju, ka j\u016bs abi esat run\u0101t\u0101ji, bet tom\u0113r, vai vienm\u0113r esat var\u0113ju\u0161i visu izrun\u0101t?<br \/>\nKrista: M\u0113s priek\u0161 vid\u0113j\u0101 cilv\u0113ka patie\u0161\u0101m daudz run\u0101jam viens ar otru, un tom\u0113r, n\u0113, nevar\u0113j\u0101m visu izrun\u0101t. T\u0101 ir lieta, par ko labpr\u0101t izst\u0101st\u012b\u0161u. Es esmu t\u0101da impuls\u012bva un ekstraverta, ja man bija ko pateikt, tad es teicu, var\u0113ju mest \u0161\u0137\u012bvjus, vienreiz pat lausku dab\u016bju sev k\u0101j\u0101 no \u0161\u0137\u012bvja, ko pati lidin\u0101ju. Ir bijis pat t\u0101, ka v\u012brs iemet mani gult\u0101 un saka \u2013 nomierinies, jo n\u0101kamais tad b\u016btu iPhone, kas lidotu. Bet tas bija tad, kad bij\u0101m v\u0113l jauni, skraid\u012bj\u0101m ar ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101m viens otram paka\u013c un bija citi \u201cholivudas g\u0101jieni\u201d. Man lik\u0101s vienm\u0113r, ka str\u012bdi ir laba lieta un p\u0101riem ir j\u0101str\u012bdas. Tad es noguru. Es biju kristiete un biju dzird\u0113jusi, ka visi m\u0101ca, ka sievai nav labi z\u0101\u0123\u0113t v\u012bru. Un es izdom\u0101ju vien\u0101 dien\u0101, ka es vair\u0101k nez\u0101\u0123\u0113\u0161u, un b\u016b\u0161u jauka sieva.<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs pat atceras to sarunu, kur\u0101 st\u0101st\u012bju, ka esmu t\u0101du l\u0113mumu pie\u0146\u0113musi un vi\u0146\u0161 pie sevis dom\u0101ja, k\u0101 vi\u0146am nu ir paveicies. Kas notika? Nu es vienreiz nez\u0101\u0123\u0113ju, otrreiz uz\u0146\u0113mos un izdar\u012bju kaut ko vi\u0146a viet\u0101, tad atkal kaut ko nepasaku un p\u0113c gadiem attapos ar saj\u016btu, ka man ir nevis divi, bet tr\u012bs b\u0113rni un ka pateikt es nevaru, jo man ta\u010du ir j\u0101saudz\u0113 mana v\u012bra j\u016btas. (K.Bl\u016bma)<\/p>\n<p>Fin\u0101l\u0101 t\u0101 ar\u012b es dz\u012bvoju. Tie bija vair\u0101ki gadi! Un lai ar\u012b es g\u0101ju psihoterapij\u0101s, es nepaman\u012bju, ka kaut kas iet \u0161\u0137\u0113rs\u0101m!<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: Tie bija aptuveni k\u0101di asto\u0146i gadi. Pirmie gadi laul\u012bb\u0101 mums bija laiks, kad notika karstie str\u012bdi un tika bliezts \u0101r\u0101 viss, bet paties\u012bb\u0101 tad ar\u012b attiec\u012bbas bija lab\u0101kas nek\u0101 p\u0113c tam. Attiec\u012bbas bija izrisin\u0101t\u0101kas uz konkr\u0113to br\u012bdi. Tad it k\u0101 uz labu gribot, notika \u0161\u012b piel\u0101go\u0161an\u0101s, lai b\u016btu maz\u0101k un mier\u012bg\u0101k, tom\u0113r rezult\u0101t\u0101 rad\u0101s plaisa.<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: Un ar to j\u016bs esat unik\u0101ls p\u0101ris, kas esat izm\u0113\u0123in\u0101ju\u0161i \u0161\u012bs te divas metodes \u2013 pirm\u0101, kad izrun\u0101 un bliez \u0101r\u0101 visu un vienm\u0113r, un tad otr\u0101 \u2013 kad tu Krista identific\u0113jies ar \u0161o \u201clabo sievu\u201d, kura vair\u0101k nez\u0101\u0123\u0113s. Pie k\u0101 tas beig\u0101s tad noveda un vai tagad ir l\u012bdzsvars atrasts?<br \/>\nKrista: Protams, esam \u0161obr\u012bd daudz nobriedu\u0161\u0101kas person\u012bbas un nav vair\u0101k lidojo\u0161ie \u0161\u0137\u012bvji un ma\u0161\u012bnas ar\u012b netiek dauz\u012btas.<\/p>\n<p>M\u0113s saprat\u0101m vien\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b, kad mums ir katram individu\u0101l\u0101s traumas, kuras tiek ienestas attiec\u012bb\u0101s, bet kuras ir j\u0101atrisina. T\u0101p\u0113c m\u0113s \u0161obr\u012bd str\u0101d\u0101jam katrs pie sav\u0101m individu\u0101laj\u0101m traum\u0101m. (K.Bl\u016bma)<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: T\u0101s traumu lietas pat nevar t\u0101 attiec\u012bb\u0101s izrun\u0101t, ka tagad m\u0113s t\u0101s nedar\u012bsim. Ja man, piem\u0113ram, ir trauma no kritiz\u0113\u0161anas, man vienk\u0101r\u0161i nepat\u012bk, ka to k\u0101ds dara, es ta\u010du nevaru teikt sievai, labi, kritiz\u0113 un es tik\u0161u ar to gal\u0101. Divas reizes es iztur\u0113\u0161u, bet tre\u0161aj\u0101 reiz\u0113 man \u0161irmis aizies ciet. Vien\u012bgais veids, k\u0101 laul\u012bb\u0101 \u0161o lietu atrisin\u0101t, ir str\u0101d\u0101jot pie sevis.<\/p>\n<p>Krista: J\u0101, un Vilm\u0101ram viena no m\u012blest\u012bbas valod\u0101m ir v\u0101rdi un es redz\u0113ju ta\u010du, cik \u013coti vi\u0146am s\u0101p, ja pasaku ko sliktu. Lai ar\u012b es p\u0113c dabas esmu t\u0101da, ka visiem saku visu, ko dom\u0101ju. Tad, kad m\u0113s tajos Ziemasv\u0113tkos s\u0101k\u0101m visu \u0161\u0137etin\u0101t, tad tagad ir jau t\u0101, ka Vilm\u0101rs \u013cauj man dusmoties, pateikt, ko gribu. Mums k\u0101 liels pal\u012bgs bija Gata L\u012bduma gr\u0101mata. Kad Ziemassv\u0113tkos s\u0101k\u0101m nodarboties ar \u0161o attiec\u012bbu anal\u012bzi un cel\u0161anu, vi\u0146a gr\u0101mata \u201cP\u0101ru (ne) b\u016b\u0161anas\u201d bija k\u0101 instruments mums. M\u0113s katru vakaru las\u012bj\u0101m kop\u0101 pa noda\u013cai.<\/p>\n<p>Cik ir tava atbild\u012bba, lai str\u0101d\u0101tu ar sevi un savu traumu un kas ir tas, ko tu sagaidi no savas sievas un kur vi\u0146a var b\u016bt pal\u012bdzo\u0161a taj\u0101?<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: Cilv\u0113kam p\u0113c b\u016bt\u012bbas t\u0101pat ir j\u0101str\u0101d\u0101 ar sevi. Tas b\u016btu darbs ar terapeitu, jo ieraudz\u012bt sevi pa\u0161am m\u0101j\u0101s s\u0113\u017eot un lasot d\u012bv\u0101n\u0101 gr\u0101matu ir tikpat veiksm\u012bgi k\u0101 gur\u0137im ieraudz\u012bt eti\u0137eti, s\u0113\u017eot burci\u0146\u0101. Lai k\u0101 man liktos, cik esmu advanc\u0113ts, es aizeju pie terapeita un saprotu, ok, es tom\u0113r neesmu saredz\u0113jis to un to. Tas darbs ir individu\u0101ls. Laul\u0101tais var \u0161aj\u0101 vien\u0101dojum\u0101 ien\u0101kt, ja abi viens otram \u013coti uzticas un tad var b\u016bt individu\u0101l\u0101 terapija p\u0101r\u012b. Tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka p\u0101ris iet uz terapiju kop\u0101, bet speci\u0101lists str\u0101d\u0101 k\u0101d\u0101s reiz\u0113s tikai ar vienu. Otrs s\u0113\u017e mal\u0101 un redz visu procesu un tad nav m\u0101j\u0101s j\u0101m\u0113\u0123ina otram izst\u0101st\u012bt, kam viens ir g\u0101jis cauri. Bonuss \u0161im procesam ir, ka d\u0113\u013c maniem aizsardz\u012bbas meh\u0101nismiem, es varu neb\u016bt atkl\u0101ts ar terapeitu, es varu dot nepareizu inform\u0101ciju terapeitam. To es dar\u012bt varu, lai censtos sevi it k\u0101 pasarg\u0101t neapzin\u0101ti, tad tur mana sieva var ien\u0101kt \u0161aj\u0101 vien\u0101dojum\u0101 un teikt, \u0161ito vi\u0146\u0161 saka nepareizi un dz\u012bv\u0113 t\u0101 nav. Protams, tas var notikt tikai tad, ja cilv\u0113kam, kur\u0161 str\u0101d\u0101 ar terapeitu, netrauc\u0113 otra kl\u0101tb\u016btne. Un ir j\u0101b\u016bt \u013coti lielai uztic\u012bbai p\u0101r\u012b.<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: Tev, Krista, terapiju prakse ir visai sen, at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bb\u0101 no Vilm\u0101ra, vai ne?<br \/>\nKrista: J\u0101, es jau no k\u0101diem piecpadsmit gadiem, kad man bija vis\u0101das vesel\u012bbas probl\u0113mas, kas k\u013cuva par manu traumu, agri non\u0101cu pie psihologiem. Es toreiz sapratu, ka t\u0101 ir baig\u0101 lieta, un ka ar terapeita pal\u012bdz\u012bbu for\u0161i vari pab\u012bd\u012bties dz\u012bv\u0113 uz priek\u0161u. Tad, kad mums bija piedzimusi meita un atkal bija vesel\u012bbas probl\u0113mas, es atkal ats\u0101ku iet terapij\u0101s. T\u0101 ar\u012b visus \u0161os gadus esmu g\u0101jusi, bet Vilm\u0101rs n\u0113. Fin\u0101l\u0101 esmu pat s\u0101kusi m\u0101c\u012bties taj\u0101 virzien\u0101. Un notika, ka es \u0161aj\u0101 izaugsm\u0113 vi\u0146am paskr\u0113ju gar\u0101m. Lai ar\u012b pirms vair\u0101kiem gadiem es vi\u0146am teicu, ja s\u0101k\u0161u stud\u0113t, tev b\u016bs vismaz j\u0101lasa t\u0101s pa\u0161as gr\u0101matas, ko es las\u012b\u0161u.<\/p>\n<p>Ja viens no p\u0101ra aiziet strauji psiholo\u0123isk\u0101 izaugsm\u0113 uz aug\u0161u, ir milz\u012bga b\u012bstam\u012bba taj\u0101, jo otrs jau ir palicis turpat ar sav\u0101m traum\u0101m. Es beig\u0101s jau redzu visas tavas traumas, es t\u0101s varu ieb\u0101zt tav\u0101 sej\u0101 un es redzu ko man ar t\u0101m dar\u012bt un tad aiziet \u012bsts \u0137\u012bselis. (K.Bl\u016bma)<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: Taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b tad ar\u012b s\u0101k\u0101s dr\u0101ma \u2026<\/p>\n<p>Rihards: J\u0101, tas ir tas, ko ar\u012b esmu dzird\u0113jis k\u0101d\u0101 st\u0101st\u0101, kur\u0101 bija s\u0101p\u012bga \u0161\u0137ir\u0161an\u0101s vi\u0146am un mums bija iesp\u0113ja uzdot vi\u0146am jaut\u0101jumu, kas ir j\u0101dara man, lai man t\u0101 nenotiktu? Vi\u0146\u0161 teica \u2013 audziet kop\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 atzina, ka vi\u0146\u0161 sav\u0101 laul\u012bb\u0101 to nebija dar\u012bjis. Un esmu nov\u0113rojis, ka tie\u0161i v\u012brie\u0161iem te ir liel\u0101k\u0101 b\u012bstam\u012bba\u2026<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: T\u0101 atkal ir biolo\u0123ija, jo t\u012bri statistiski v\u012brie\u0161iem vair\u0101k interes\u0113 lietas, sieviet\u0113m \u2013 cilv\u0113ki. Un j\u016btas ar\u012b ir saist\u012btas ar cilv\u0113kiem un terapeiti ir saist\u012bti ar cilv\u0113kiem, un v\u012brie\u0161iem bie\u017ei vienk\u0101r\u0161i tas neinteres\u0113.<\/p>\n<p>Krista: V\u0113l cilv\u0113kam, lai vi\u0146\u0161 uzklaus\u012btu par sevi kaut ko, ir j\u0101b\u016bt gatavam dzird\u0113t. Es varu izstiepties, sarauties, nost\u0101ties uz galvas, l\u016bgties, raud\u0101t vai piedzerties, ja vi\u0146\u0161 neb\u016bs gatavs to dzird\u0113t, vi\u0146\u0161 nedzird\u0113s. Jo trauma b\u016bs v\u0113l p\u0101r\u0101k liela taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b. Diem\u017e\u0113l citreiz ir j\u0101nogrimst tik dzi\u013ci, lai var\u0113tu uzcelties atpaka\u013c un lai ieraudz\u012btu, ka otru teju vai ir pazaud\u0113jis. Mums noveic\u0101s, ka Vilm\u0101rs bija gatavs iet pie terapeita, jo pateica, ka grib c\u012bn\u012bties par mums.<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: Bet Krista var\u0113ja piln\u012bb\u0101 noz\u0101\u0123\u0113t zaru, uz kura j\u016bs abi s\u0113\u017eat ar savu kritiku un zin\u0101\u0161an\u0101m\u2026<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: Es pie\u013cauju domu, ka slikts rezult\u0101ts ir abos gad\u012bjumos. Nav zelta izejas strat\u0113\u0123ijas, jo, ja sieva visu laiku z\u0101\u0123\u0113 \u2013 attiec\u012bbas beidz\u0101s, ja nez\u0101\u0123\u0113 un att\u0101lin\u0101s, attiec\u012bbas atkal beidzas. Agri vai v\u0113lu p\u0101ris non\u0101k krustpunkt\u0101, kur j\u0101iz\u0161\u0137iras, uz kuru pusi doties. M\u016bsu gad\u012bjum\u0101, es uzskatu, ka mums \u013coti paveic\u0101s, jo mums bija lieli uzkr\u0101jumi attiec\u012bbu zi\u0146\u0101. Ar to es dom\u0101ju, ka p\u0101rim, kur\u0161, piem\u0113ram, ir kop\u0101 tikai divus m\u0113ne\u0161us, nevajag uzreiz tais\u012bt b\u0113rnu. B\u0113rns b\u016bs milz\u012bgs izaicin\u0101jums un p\u0101ris v\u0113l neb\u016bs tik \u013coti salipu\u0161i, lai b\u016btu uz k\u0101 balst\u012bt attiec\u012bbas.<\/p>\n<p>Mums uzkr\u0101jums bija liels, jo bija daudz intimit\u0101tes pirms tam un bija notikusi pietiekami stipra sa\u0101\u0137\u0113\u0161an\u0101s kop\u0101, lai kr\u012bz\u0113 nepie\u0146emtu l\u0113mumu aiziet. (V.Bl\u016bms)<\/p>\n<p>Krista: Man liekas te svar\u012bgu lomu sp\u0113l\u0113ja v\u0113rt\u012bbas, par ko pirms tam run\u0101j\u0101m. Mums pamatv\u0113rt\u012bba ir \u0123imene. T\u0101tad m\u0113s par to c\u012bn\u0101mies! B\u016btu j\u0101b\u016bt kam \u013coti dramatiskam, lai es grib\u0113tu aiziet no \u0161\u012b v\u012brie\u0161a, kas ir bijis mana izv\u0113le. Tas ir liel\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 v\u0113rt\u012bbu jaut\u0101jums.<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: Labs starts ir for\u0161i, ja abiem sakr\u012bt pamatv\u0113rt\u012bbas, bet tam bonus\u0101 n\u0101k v\u0113lme m\u0101c\u012bties. M\u0113s neg\u0101j\u0101m kop\u0101 terapij\u0101s, bet pa gadiem tom\u0113r ir las\u012btas vis\u0101das gr\u0101matas, apmekl\u0113ti semin\u0101ri. Svar\u012bgi kaut vai saprast person\u012bbu tipus sev, laul\u0101tajam un b\u0113rniem, saprast, ja otrs sp\u0113j \u201car k\u0101ju atspert durvis\u201d, vi\u0146\u0161 nav slikts, bet vienk\u0101r\u0161i at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bgs. Un man nav j\u0101m\u0113\u0123ina ar\u012b visur iet spert ar k\u0101ju durvis va\u013c\u0101, ja t\u0101 ir vi\u0146as stipr\u0101 puse. Mums bija piem\u0113rs, kur Valters bija ied\u016bris sev ac\u012b ar nazi. Kristai bija bail, ka ejot iek\u0161\u0101 slimn\u012bcas uz\u0146em\u0161an\u0101, papildus tur var sa\u0137ert citus v\u012brusus, jo pie mums jau ir t\u0101, ka uz\u0146em visus vien\u0101 telp\u0101 \u2013 v\u012brusniekus un tos ar lauzt\u0101m k\u0101j\u0101m. Vi\u0146a teica, m\u016bs vajag uz\u0146emt, bet nevajag vest iek\u0161\u0101 pie citiem slimniekiem. Vi\u0146a g\u0101ja un ar savu k\u0101ju pa priek\u0161u izsita to, ka tika pie acu \u0101rsta bez gaid\u012b\u0161anas taj\u0101 koptelp\u0101. Es varb\u016bt ar\u012b to var\u0113tu izdar\u012bt, bet man tas b\u016btu caur milz\u012bgu lauzienu. Es, savuk\u0101rt, izdar\u012bju to, kas vi\u0146ai bija smagi \u2013 ieg\u0101ju ar b\u0113rnu pie \u0101rsta, kur visas proced\u016bras. \u0160ajos gad\u012bjumos t\u0101 z\u0101\u0123\u0113\u0161ana ir gal\u012bgi gar\u0101m!<\/p>\n<p>Ja pie\u0146em otra v\u0101j\u0101s un stipr\u0101s puses, tad laul\u012bb\u0101 var izveidoties komanda, kur aizpilda iztr\u016bksto\u0161o da\u013cu. T\u0101 ir f\u012b\u010da, ko saprat\u0101m un iem\u0101c\u012bj\u0101mies caur daudziem kursiem, gr\u0101mat\u0101m un studij\u0101m par komunik\u0101ciju, cilv\u0113ku attiec\u012bb\u0101m. (V.Bl\u016bms)<\/p>\n<p>Krista: Un v\u0113l svar\u012bga vieta ir emp\u0101tijai, tai sp\u0113jai izprast, k\u0101 j\u016btas otrs. Es esmu p\u0113c dabas emp\u0101tiska, bet Vilm\u0101ram tas nav dabiski. Tom\u0113r m\u016bsu attiec\u012bb\u0101s vi\u0146\u0161 pret mani ir \u013coti emp\u0101tisks. Man hroniski ir migr\u0113nas, tom\u0113r nekad nav bijis j\u0101dzird teksts, lai sav\u0101cos un uztaisu ko \u0113st pusdien\u0101s. Man tiek atnestas z\u0101les un es tieku ap\u010dubin\u0101ta. Emp\u0101tija ir kolos\u0101la lieta attiec\u012bb\u0101s, t\u0101 pal\u012bdz izmanevr\u0113t cauri dz\u012bves gr\u016bt\u012bb\u0101m kop\u0101.<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: J\u016bs audzin\u0101t divus b\u0113rnus, k\u0101 jums \u0161\u0137iet, cik liel\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 b\u0113rni ir ieguv\u0113ji tam, ja vec\u0101ki savas attiec\u012bbas salabo un pilnveido?<br \/>\nVilm\u0101rs: B\u0113rnu d\u0101rza audzin\u0101t\u0101jas un skolot\u0101jas, kas var nov\u0113rot tos b\u0113rnus, kuriem vec\u0101ki ir \u0161\u0137\u012bru\u0161ies un tos, kuriem nav \u0161\u0137\u012bru\u0161ies, saka, ka ir fundament\u0101la at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bba vi\u0146u uzved\u012bb\u0101, traum\u0101s, labsaj\u016bt\u0101.<\/p>\n<p>Krista: Mums b\u0113rniem, piem\u0113ram, liekas, ka tas ir norm\u0101li, ka mamma ar t\u0113ti t\u0101 pa r\u012btiem un vakariem \u010dubin\u0101s un izskat\u0101s k\u0101 cukurvat\u0113 tas viss, bet p\u0113c 25 gadiem vi\u0146iem tas b\u016bs tas pamats dz\u012bvei.<\/p>\n<p>Vilm\u0101rs: J\u0101, tas ir tas pamats, ko m\u0113s varam vi\u0146iem iedot.<\/p>\n<p>Krista: Redzi, es dz\u012bvoju ar armagedeona dom\u0101\u0161anu. T\u0101 k\u0101 man ir n\u0101cies daudz dz\u012bv\u0113 saskarties ar n\u0101vi un cie\u0161an\u0101m, es zinu, cik dz\u012bve ir \u012bsa un mirklis ir tagad, jo r\u012bt vi\u0146\u0161 var ar\u012b neb\u016bt. Nevienam tas nav apsol\u012bts. T\u0101 k\u0101 es to zinu, tad es dz\u012bvoju atbilsto\u0161i savai v\u0113rt\u012bbu sist\u0113mai. Man taj\u0101 v\u0113rt\u012bba ir \u0123imenei, t\u0101p\u0113c es nenoskrie\u0161u savu dz\u012bvi nej\u0113dz\u012bgos darbos ar cilv\u0113kiem, gar kuriem man nav nek\u0101da sakara. Es savu dz\u012bvi nodz\u012bvo\u0161u v\u0113rt\u012bgi, kad m\u0113s tur gul\u0113sim, tas b\u016bs vien\u012bgais, kas b\u016bs bijis v\u0113rt\u012bgi un nevis naudai. Es zinu, kam dienas beig\u0101s ir j\u0113ga un kur es gribu atgriezties un kuriem cilv\u0113kiem es gribu sevi velt\u012bt.<\/p>\n<p>Viktorija: Paldies, ka tu to saki, labs uzsvars, jo m\u0113s skrienam, m\u0113s noskrienam dz\u012bvi, noskrienam laul\u012bbu un savas attiec\u012bbas un p\u0113c tam pie fini\u0161a ir kas attopas vieni, jo ir atst\u0101ju\u0161i sav\u0113jo kaut kur. Turpiniet \u010dubin\u0101ties, invest\u0113t sav\u0101s attiec\u012bb\u0101s un las\u012bt gr\u0101matas kop\u0101! 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