{"id":3414,"date":"2023-03-02T13:15:35","date_gmt":"2023-03-02T11:15:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musulauliba.lv\/?p=3414"},"modified":"2023-03-03T10:12:02","modified_gmt":"2023-03-03T08:12:02","slug":"izdzivot-pazemibas-skolu-un-iemacities-piedot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musulauliba.lv\/izdzivot-pazemibas-skolu-un-iemacities-piedot\/","title":{"rendered":"Izdz\u012bvot pazem\u012bbas skolu un iem\u0101c\u012bties piedot"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-bg-parallax\" data-bg-align=\"center center\" data-direction=\"up\" data-mute=\"false\" data-opacity=\"100\" data-velocity=\"-0.2\" data-mobile-enabled=\"false\" data-break_parents=\"0\" data-bg-image=\"https:\/\/musulauliba.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/dzintars-osemljaks-ieva-osemljaka-krize-lauliba-1800-scaled.jpg\" data-bg-repeat=\"false\" ><\/div><div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container fusion-parallax-up nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-sizes-top:0px;--awb-border-sizes-bottom:0px;--awb-border-sizes-left:0px;--awb-border-sizes-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-padding-top:200px;--awb-padding-bottom:80px;--awb-background-image:url(&quot;https:\/\/musulauliba.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/dzintars-osemljaks-ieva-osemljaka-krize-lauliba-1800-scaled.jpg&quot;);--awb-background-size:cover;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:calc( 1170px + 0px );margin-left: calc(-0px \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-0px \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-padding-right:11%;--awb-padding-left:11%;--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:0px;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:0px;--awb-spacing-left-medium:0px;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:0px;--awb-spacing-left-small:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center; color: #fff;\">IZDZ\u012aVOT PAZEM\u012aBAS SKOLU UN IEM\u0100C\u012aTIES PIEDOT<\/h2>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;max-width:200px;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single sep-solid\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#f6861f;border-color:#f6861f;border-top-width:3px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><p style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 24px; color: #fff; font-weight: 300;\">Laul\u012bbas pieredz\u0113 dal\u0101s Dzintars un Ieva Osem\u013cjaki<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-2 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-background-position:left top;--awb-border-sizes-top:0px;--awb-border-sizes-bottom:0px;--awb-border-sizes-left:0px;--awb-border-sizes-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-padding-top:35px;--awb-padding-bottom:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1216.8px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-1 fusion_builder_column_2_3 2_3 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:66.666666666667%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:2.88%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:2.88%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-3\"><h5>Dzintars un Ieva Osem\u013cjaki laul\u012bb\u0101 ir jau 20 ar pusi gadus. Vi\u0146i saka &#8211; ka izv\u0113loties piedot, p\u0101ris apliecina to, ka izv\u0113las viens otru. Pat ja tas j\u0101izdara atkal un atkal. Vi\u0146i gatavi dal\u012bties sav\u0101 pieredz\u0113, k\u0101 saskat\u012bt ce\u013cus piedo\u0161anai, ko ies\u0101kt ar dz\u012bves posmu, kur\u0101, \u0161\u0137iet, ir pazaud\u0113ts viss. K\u0101 k\u013c\u016bt par stipr\u0101ku laul\u012bbu p\u0113c \u0161\u0101das pazem\u012bbas skolas?<\/h5>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-video fusion-youtube\" style=\"--awb-max-width:800px;--awb-max-height:450px;--awb-align-self:center;--awb-width:100%;\"><div class=\"video-shortcode\"><div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\" ><iframe title=\"YouTube video player 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/QFvLG1CGahs?wmode=transparent&autoplay=0&amp;rel=0\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-4\"><p><strong>Kas pal\u012bdz diviem cilv\u0113kiem, kuri sol\u012bju\u0161i m\u016b\u017e\u012bgu uztic\u012bbu, to ar\u012b saglab\u0101t br\u012b\u017eos, kad attiec\u012bbas piedz\u012bvo satricin\u0101jumus?\u00a0 M\u0113s turpin\u0101m sarunas par laul\u012bbu, p\u0101ru piedz\u012bvotaj\u0101m kr\u012bz\u0113m taj\u0101, bet galvenais \u2013 ieklaus\u0101mies atbild\u0113s, k\u0101 kr\u012bzes p\u0101rvar\u0113t un k\u0101 laul\u012bbu dar\u012bt stipr\u0101ku. J\u016bsu uzman\u012bbai tre\u0161\u0101 saruna un t\u0101 \u0161oreiz ar Dzintaru un Ievu Osem\u013cjakiem. Sav\u0101 20 un ar pusi gadus ilgaj\u0101 laul\u012bb\u0101 vi\u0146i atradu\u0161ies br\u012bd\u012b, kad \u0161\u0137iet pazaud\u0113ts ir viss. Vi\u0146i pa\u0161i saka \u2013 p\u0113c s\u016bri gr\u016bti nopeln\u012bt\u0101s un ieg\u0101d\u0101t\u0101s savas m\u0101jas zaud\u0113\u0161anas, vi\u0146i izdz\u012bvoju\u0161i \u012bstu pazem\u012bbas skolu. K\u0101 iem\u0101c\u012bties probl\u0113m\u0101s skat\u012bties vair\u0101k uz risin\u0101jumu, nevis probl\u0113mu, ko taj\u0101 ies\u0101kt ar savu raksturu un pag\u0101tnes bag\u0101\u017eu un \u2013 k\u0101 iem\u0101c\u012bties viens otram piedot? Sarunu vada Rihards un Viktorija Kostigovi.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sarun\u0101 ar\u012b dzird\u0113siet, k\u0101du atbildi uz Osem\u013cjaku p\u0101ra uzdoto jaut\u0101jumu &#8211; &#8220;Ko dar\u012bt laul\u0101tajam p\u0101rim, kad b\u0113rni izaugu\u0161i un ir palaisti sav\u0101 neatkar\u012bgaj\u0101 dz\u012bv\u0113?&#8221; sniedz cits laul\u0101tais p\u0101ris &#8211; m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101js un m\u0101kslas pedago\u0123e Aldis un Dita Pavlovi\u010di.<\/p>\n<p>JA G\u016aSTIET V\u0112RT\u012aGAS ATZI\u0145AS, DALIETIES!<\/p>\n<h3>Rihards: Prieks b\u016bt pie jums \u0161aj\u0101 sarun\u0101 par laul\u012bbu. Mums tie ir 14 ar pusi gadi, jums \u2013 20 ar pusi! Taj\u0101 ir v\u0113rt\u012bba, ja tam seko l\u012bdzi un to svin. Dzintar, tu apprec\u0113jies, kad tev bija jau 38 gadi, jums abiem raksturi jau bija izveidoju\u0161ies. Tas ir cit\u0101d\u0101k, nek\u0101 saiet kop\u0101 18 gados un tad piesl\u012bp\u0113ties. J\u016bsu laul\u012bb\u0101 ar\u012b ce\u013c\u0161 finansi\u0101laj\u0101 jom\u0101 nav bijis viegls, ir bijis milzu par\u0101ds, gr\u016bt\u012bbas, bizness un emocion\u0101li izaicin\u0101jumi. K\u0101 un k\u0101p\u0113c j\u016bs \u0161os gadus esat paliku\u0161i tom\u0113r kop\u0101? K\u0101ds teiktu, viegl\u0101k ta\u010du ir iz\u0161\u0137irties \u2026<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Dzintars:<\/strong>\u00a0J\u0101, 20,5 gadi ir bijis ce\u013c\u0161, kas nav bijis viegls ne vienam ne otram, bet m\u0113s to kop\u0101 ejam, un kop\u0101 ejot ir daudz viegl\u0101k. M\u0113s m\u0113\u0123in\u0101m iem\u0101c\u012bties iet pret\u012b, ieklaus\u012bties viens otr\u0101, citreiz ir t\u0101, ka uzliec sp\u012bt\u012bgu masku un negribi no\u0146emt to, jo tas tev ir izdev\u012bg\u0101k. Kam tad iedzi\u013cin\u0101ties otra probl\u0113m\u0101 vai situ\u0101cij\u0101? Tom\u0113r, pirmais svar\u012bg\u0101kais ir iem\u0101c\u012bties gr\u016bt\u012bb\u0101s atrast kop\u012bgo un tom\u0113r iedzi\u013cin\u0101ties otr\u0101. Ja mana sieva neiedzi\u013cin\u0101tos man\u0101 s\u0101p\u0113, m\u0113s tik viegli neizietu visam cauri. Kad divi ir kop\u0101, tad br\u012bd\u012b, kad viens kr\u012bt, otrs vi\u0146u var pavilkt uz aug\u0161u un otr\u0101di. Kad esi viens, nav kas pal\u012bdz p\u0101rvar\u0113t dz\u012bves k\u0101zusus un kre\u0146\u0137us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ieva:<\/strong>\u00a0Man liekas, ka visi \u0161ie gadi \u0123imen\u0113, laul\u012bb\u0101 un m\u016bsu attiec\u012bb\u0101s mums ir k\u0101 pazem\u012bbas skola. Tom\u0113r, t\u0101 ir m\u016bsu izv\u0113le. Ja izv\u0113l\u0113j\u0101mies divdesmit gadus atpaka\u013c b\u016bt kop\u0101, tad tie kramp\u012b\u0161i, kas toreiz nostr\u0101d\u0101ja, ir tie, kas m\u016bs atvelk kr\u012b\u017eu br\u012b\u017eos atpaka\u013c. M\u0113s esam tic\u012bgi cilv\u0113ki, un laul\u0101joties dev\u0101m sol\u012bjumu ar\u012b Dieva priek\u0161\u0101.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Es saku t\u0101 \u2013 ja es tad izv\u0113l\u0113jos m\u016bs, tad es katru reizi kr\u012b\u017eu br\u012b\u017eos sev atg\u0101dinu, ka es atkal izv\u0113los m\u016bs. Tad, kad ir gr\u016bti un s\u0101p\u012bgi, es atceros, ka es toreiz izv\u0113l\u0113jos m\u016bs. Tad, kad tas maks\u0101 cenu, t\u0101 vairs nav kli\u0161eja, bet zinu, ka to nov\u0113rt\u0113 debesis, ar\u012b m\u0113s pa\u0161i, un ceru, ka ar\u012b b\u0113rni. (Ieva Osem\u013cjaka)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>M\u0113s izv\u0113lamies palikt kop\u0101, nevis pa\u0161\u0137irties, lai ar\u012b, iesp\u0113jams, ka k\u0101dam tie\u0161i tas ir risin\u0101jums. Ir da\u017e\u0101das situ\u0101cijas\u2026<\/p>\n<h3>Run\u0101jot par j\u016bsu b\u0113rniem, bija liels prieks vi\u0146us \u0161odien \u2013 sestdien\u0101 \u0161eit satikt. J\u016bs k\u0101 \u0123imene esat un pavad\u0101t br\u012bvdienu visi kop\u0101. Ieva, k\u0101 ir ar to izv\u0113li, kas ir apzin\u0101ts l\u0113mums, vai tad ir j\u0101liek mal\u0101 visas emocijas, kas iesp\u0113jams kliedz ko citu?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Ieva:<\/strong>\u00a0M\u0113s esam padomju b\u0113rni un m\u016bs kaunin\u0101ja tad, kad dusmoj\u0101mies vai kad raud\u0101j\u0101m. T\u0101s emocijas tika sl\u0101p\u0113tas. T\u0101di izaug\u0101m un tad, kad emocijas n\u0101k \u0101r\u0101 pa\u0161a \u0123imen\u0113, t\u0101s ir svar\u012bgi pie\u0146emt. Es pie\u0146emu v\u012bra k\u0101du, piem\u0113ram, neapmierin\u0101t\u012bbu, un Dzintaram ir svar\u012bgi pie\u0146emt manas raizes vai k\u0101dreiz dusmas. Pie\u0146emot abpus\u0113j\u0101s emocijas, j\u0101iesl\u0113dz skaidrais sapr\u0101ts. Piedot var tad, kad tu saproti ar savu skaidro sapr\u0101tu, k\u0101p\u0113c vi\u0146\u0161 kaut ko izdara. Man re\u0101li pal\u012bdz tas, ja es saprotu, k\u0101p\u0113c Dzintars vai b\u0113rni, vai es kaut ko izdaru vai k\u0101 norea\u0123\u0113ju. Man nekad nav biju\u0161as domas, ka v\u012brs kaut ko dar\u012btu aiz \u013cauniem nodomiem, es ticu vi\u0146a m\u012blest\u012bbai!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dzintars:<\/strong>\u00a0Paldies, ka tu tici!<\/p>\n<h3>J\u016bs sav\u0101 laul\u012bb\u0101 esat piedz\u012bvoju\u0161i smagus\u00a0 finansi\u0101lus sitienus. Tu, Dzintar, darbojies celtniec\u012bb\u0101, kur apgroz\u0101s \u013coti lielas naudas, tu min\u0113ji ka ar\u012b taj\u0101 laik\u0101 iziets cauri kr\u012bz\u0113m. Vai l\u012bdz\u0101s finansi\u0101laj\u0101m probl\u0113m\u0101m bija ar\u012b emocion\u0101l\u0101s un identit\u0101tes kr\u012bzes?<\/h3>\n<p>Finanses ir \u013coti noz\u012bm\u012bga m\u016bsu dz\u012bves sast\u0101vda\u013ca. T\u0101s ir asinis m\u016bsu dz\u012bves \u0137ermen\u012b un ja dz\u012bvojot j\u016btam, ka finanses iztr\u016bkst, j\u016btam, ka nav vairs labi un priec\u012bgi, nav miera. Protams, bijis vis\u0101di. M\u0113s toreiz nopirk\u0101m vien\u012bgo m\u0101jokli, p\u0101rdod visu, kas bija. Ieg\u0101d\u0101j\u0101mies m\u0101ju 2007. gada s\u0101kum\u0101, kad bija tikko s\u0101kusies kr\u012bze nekustamajos \u012bpa\u0161umos. Tas v\u0113l\u0101k \u013coti atspogu\u013coj\u0101s m\u016bsu dz\u012bv\u0113, kred\u012btu maks\u0101jot. Pirmie gadi bija mier\u012bgi, jo man k\u0101 uz\u0146\u0113m\u0113jam bija toreiz tas iesp\u0113jams, bet tad vien\u0101 dien\u0101 banka pateica, ka mums j\u0101samaks\u0101 visa atlikus\u012b summa. T\u0101 bija banka, kurai valsts bija p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i uzlikusi arestu un vairs ne\u013c\u0101va p\u0101rsl\u0113gt jaunus l\u012bgumus ar kreditoriem. N\u0101c\u0101s mekl\u0113t iesp\u0113ju, k\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 risin\u0101t. Beig\u0101s zaud\u0113j\u0101m savu vien\u012bgo \u012bpa\u0161umu, banka to at\u0146\u0113ma un p\u0101rdeva \u016btrup\u0113. Par\u0101ds \u201cuzk\u0101r\u0101s\u201d uz mums, bija j\u0101dz\u0113\u0161 liela summa un izr\u0101d\u012bj\u0101s, ka vien\u012bgais ce\u013c\u0161 bija \u2013 iet maks\u0101tnesp\u0113jas procesu. Ja t\u0101 neb\u016btu bijis, tad v\u0113l l\u012bdz \u0161ai dienai neko nevar\u0113tu dar\u012bt un n\u0101ktos gau\u017e\u0101m r\u016bgti varb\u016bt pat pamest \u0161o valsti, k\u0101 to \u0161odien daudzi jau ir izdar\u012bju\u0161i, lai dz\u0113stu par\u0101du. Bija mirk\u013ci, kad b\u016bvniec\u012bba deva gan prieku, gan emocion\u0101lus un finansi\u0101li smagus br\u012b\u017eus, kas ietekm\u0113ja person\u012bgi. M\u0113s \u0161o probl\u0113mu risin\u0101j\u0101m kop\u012bgi, jo k\u0101 laul\u0101tie m\u0113s esam \u201cviena miesa\u201d. Sieva pal\u012bdz\u0113ja un bija burtiski gr\u0101matvedis, kam\u0113r es g\u0101ju risin\u0101t jaut\u0101jumus pa taisno ar bank\u0101m vai aizdev\u0113jiem.<\/p>\n<h3>Vai nebija br\u012b\u017ei, kad esot taj\u0101s probl\u0113m\u0101s tom\u0113r grib\u0113j\u0101s ko p\u0101rmest viens otram un teikt \u2013 ko tu mani ievilki \u0161aj\u0101 vis\u0101 putr\u0101?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Dzintars:<\/strong>\u00a0Zini, ja m\u0113s skat\u012btos viens uz otru ar v\u0113lmi vainot, m\u0113s netiktu no t\u0101 va\u013c\u0101. Paldies Dievam par to, ka mums tie\u0161\u0101m bija labi draugi, kas toreiz pal\u012bdz\u0113ja ar padomiem. Otrs \u2013 m\u0113s l\u016bdz\u0101m Dievu. M\u0113s neskat\u012bj\u0101mies viens uz otru k\u0101 uz ienaidnieku, bet k\u0101 uz pal\u012bgu. M\u0113s \u0161o kr\u012bzi esam veiksm\u012bgi p\u0101rvar\u0113ju\u0161i, bet, protams, tas atst\u0101j iespaidu un esam tagad uzman\u012bg\u0101ki sav\u0101s izv\u0113l\u0113s, iegrib\u0101s.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Bankas past\u0101v simtiem gadu ilgi, bet kredit\u0113\u0161ana pie mums ir vien k\u0101dus p\u0113d\u0113jos 30 gadus, un, protams, m\u0113s iekrit\u0101m taj\u0101 un n\u0101c\u0101s m\u0101c\u012bties no sav\u0101m k\u013c\u016bd\u0101m. Ja tas b\u016btu m\u0101c\u012bts skol\u0101 un \u0123imen\u0113 agr\u0101k, iesp\u0113jams, m\u0113s neb\u016btu iek\u013cuvu\u0161i \u0161aj\u0101s neveiksm\u0113s. Tie\u0161i tas mums toreiz pietr\u016bka. (Dzintars Osem\u013cjaks)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Atjaunoto Latviju izveidoj\u0101m pirms \u0161ie 30 gadiem un s\u0101k\u0101m dz\u012bvot citu dz\u012bvi. S\u0101k\u0101m katrs par sevi r\u016bp\u0113ties, un k\u0101 uz\u0146\u0113m\u0113js, sapratu, ka tu esi atbild\u012bgs par visu, kas notiek ar tav\u0101m finans\u0113m. T\u0101 skola bija diezgan smaga. Labums, ko \u0161aj\u0101 es ieraugu, ir t\u0101ds, ka es saviem b\u0113rniem var\u0113\u0161u iem\u0101c\u012bt \u0161\u0101di nek\u013c\u016bd\u012bties. M\u0113s nek\u0101psim uz \u0161iem gr\u0101bek\u013ciem n\u0101kotn\u0113.<\/p>\n<h3>J\u016bs minat daudz piedo\u0161anu, vai t\u0101 ir viena no galvenaj\u0101m atzi\u0146\u0101m, kas g\u016bta \u0161o gadu laik\u0101 un caur kuru notikumu j\u016bs tik\u0101t piespiesti dom\u0101t par piedo\u0161anu?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Dzintars:<\/strong>\u00a0Bija gad\u012bjums, kad mums bija liela \u0123imenes kr\u012bze. T\u0101das, protams, p\u0101riem notiek ik pa br\u012bdim, bet ir reizes, kad t\u0101s tom\u0113r p\u0101rraug p\u0101ri tam, ko dr\u012bksti at\u013cauties dar\u012bt ar otra dv\u0113seli, sirdi un pat vesel\u012bbu. Toreiz t\u0101 bija mana emocija, kuru es nevar\u0113ju novald\u012bt. T\u0101 ies\u0101k\u0101s l\u012bdz\u012bgi k\u0101 sniega pika, kas s\u0101kum\u0101 ir maza un tad ve\u013coties no kalna izaug par lielu. T\u0101 toreiz notika ar m\u016bsu situ\u0101ciju. Tas bija greizsird\u012bbas moments, k\u0101 rezult\u0101t\u0101 bija diezgan liels m\u016bsu starp\u0101 konflikts, kuru nesp\u0113j\u0101m pa\u0161i taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b atrisin\u0101t. N\u0101c\u0101s paskat\u012bties no malas k\u0101diem cilv\u0113kiem l\u012bdz\u0101s, kas var\u0113ja pal\u012bdz\u0113t, jo es pats savas emocijas toreiz nesp\u0113ju novald\u012bt.<\/p>\n<h3>Greizsird\u012bbas moments bija pamatots?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Dzintars:<\/strong>\u00a0P\u0113c tam izr\u0101d\u012bj\u0101s, tas nebija pamatots un tas bija tikai tas, ko es biju izdom\u0101jis sav\u0101 galv\u0101 un uzskat\u012bjis k\u0101 pareizu.<\/p>\n<h3>Viktorija: Tu min\u0113ji cilv\u0113kus l\u012bdz\u0101s, kuriem tika pal\u012bdz\u012bba pras\u012bta \u2026<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Dzintars:<\/strong>\u00a0Ja netiec gal\u0101 pats, tad, protams, v\u0113rsies pie tiem, kas ir vistuv\u0101k. Tu vi\u0146iem izst\u0101sti situ\u0101ciju un gaidi padomu. M\u0113s k\u0101dreiz ar probl\u0113mu varam netikt gal\u0101 pa\u0161i un tad vajag skatu no malas \u2013 citreiz tas var b\u016bt vec\u0101ku padoms, citreiz \u2013 draugu. K\u0101 jau min\u0113j\u0101m, esam tic\u012bgi, t\u0101p\u0113c, protams, v\u0113rs\u0101mies ar\u012b pie savas draudzes m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ja, jo k\u0101 tic\u012bgi cilv\u0113ki m\u0113s redzam \u2013 ja cilv\u0113ks ar visu pats tiktu gal\u0101, tad kam mums b\u016btu Dievs vajadz\u012bgs? L\u012bdz\u0101s m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ja pal\u012bdz\u012bbai, m\u0113s v\u0113rs\u0101mies ar\u012b pie k\u0101diem citiem paz\u012bstamajiem. Tom\u0113r bija p\u0101rsteigums, ka da\u017ei mums teica, ka Dievs ta\u010du nevar main\u012bt cilv\u0113ku. Es tom\u0113r ticu, ka Dievs var main\u012bt cilv\u0113ka raksturu un pat uzskatus! Tas notiek caur Dieva V\u0101rdu (B\u012bbeli) un citu p\u0101ru pieredzi, kas izg\u0101ju\u0161i kam l\u012bdz\u012bgam cauri. Ja m\u0113s neb\u016btu skat\u012bju\u0161ies uz m\u016bsu situ\u0101ciju caur tic\u012bbas prizmu, m\u0113s nekad neb\u016btu atpaka\u013c sag\u0101ju\u0161i! M\u0113s nesp\u0113tu piedot. Caur tic\u012bbu es atradu j\u0113gu un sp\u0113ku un sp\u0113ju atrast savu k\u013c\u016bdu un l\u016bdzu piedo\u0161anu sievai. L\u012bdz\u0101s tam, atceros, ka mums tika ieteikts iet pie psihologiem un ar\u012b att\u0101lin\u0101ties vienam no otra. M\u0113s pie\u0146\u0113m\u0101m l\u0113mumu vispirms iet un l\u016bgt Dievu. M\u0113s nol\u0113m\u0101m ar\u012b atrast iemeslu un turpm\u0101k tam iemeslam ne\u013caut m\u016bsu dz\u012bv\u0113 b\u016bt. Ja tu sakni nocirt\u012bsi, koks vairs t\u0101l\u0101k neaugs, ja tikai apgriez\u012bsi zarus, koks atkal ataugs un dz\u012bs dzinumus. J\u0101b\u016bt dzi\u013cai anal\u012bzei un probl\u0113mas mekl\u0113\u0161anai, es to dar\u012bju caur gav\u0113ni.<\/p>\n<h3>Ieva, k\u0101ds tev bija \u0161is posms?<\/h3>\n<p>J\u0101, m\u0113s jau teic\u0101m, ka laul\u012bba mums abiem s\u0101k\u0101s jau k\u0101 nobriedu\u0161iem cilv\u0113kiem, kuriem katram bija sava bag\u0101\u017ea, savas ekspekt\u0101cijas par \u0123imeni un par to, k\u0101 nevajadz\u0113tu b\u016bt. To piedz\u012bvojot, protams, s\u0101kum\u0101 ir \u0161oks un jaut\u0101jums \u2013 par ko? Tad atkal man\u012b bija \u0161\u012b fr\u0101ze, man j\u0101izv\u0113las piedot, jo es izv\u0113los m\u016bs. Piedz\u012bvoju, cik Dievs p\u0101rdabiski \u0161aj\u0101 situ\u0101cij\u0101 deva sp\u0113ku, m\u012blest\u012bbu un sp\u0113ku piedot, p\u0101rkl\u0101jot visu. Mums par laul\u012bbu nem\u0101ca ne skol\u0101s, ne sabiedriskajos medijos. K\u0101dam var likties, ka p\u0113c skaistaj\u0101m k\u0101z\u0101m viss turpin\u0101sies un b\u016bs vienm\u0113r medusm\u0113nesis, bet t\u0101 nenotiek, ir j\u0101maks\u0101 cena.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Laul\u012bb\u0101 tu turpini pilnveidoties. Tas ir briljants, ja \u0123imenes izv\u0113las saglab\u0101t savu laul\u012bbu, jo tas darbs konfliktos ir darbs pie m\u016bsu sird\u012bm. T\u0101 ir milz\u012bga piedo\u0161anas skola, kur j\u0101atrod ar\u012b sev\u012b to, kas ir izprovoc\u0113jis kaut ko. Es esmu p\u0101rliecin\u0101ta, ka es neb\u016btu tas, kas es esmu bez sava v\u012bra. (Ieva Osem\u013cjaka)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u0122imene ir, pirmk\u0101rt, divu pieaugu\u0161u cilv\u0113ku \u2013 v\u012brietis un sieviete \u2013 l\u0113mums b\u016bt kop\u0101 un novecot kop\u0101, t\u0101 ir mijiedarb\u012bba ar\u012b caur s\u0101p\u0113m un kr\u012bz\u0113m.<\/p>\n<h3>Viktorija: Ieva, tu iemin\u0113ji pag\u0101tnes bag\u0101\u017eu, ko ar to ies\u0101kt un vai visu ir iesp\u0113jams p\u0101rrun\u0101t pirms k\u0101z\u0101m?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Ieva:<\/strong>\u00a0M\u0113s daudzas lietas nep\u0101rrun\u0101j\u0101m, iesp\u0113jams, k\u0101das lietas atrisin\u0101tu \u0101tr\u0101k, ja b\u016btu ko izrun\u0101ju\u0161i. J\u0101, varb\u016bt v\u012bram k\u0101das lietas bija s\u0101p\u012bgas un m\u0113s t\u0101s neizrun\u0101j\u0101m, t\u0101 rezult\u0101t\u0101 kaut k\u0101da atspere k\u0101d\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b izl\u012bda\u2026 Taj\u0101 bag\u0101\u017e\u0101 m\u0113s redzam ar\u012b savu vec\u0101ku pieredzi un to, ka \u0161\u0137iet, k\u0101 liet\u0101m ir j\u0101b\u016bt, tad es, piem\u0113ram, kaut ko apsol\u012bju, ka t\u0101 nu gan es nedar\u012b\u0161u, audzinot savus b\u0113rnus. Bet tad es pamanu, re, kur \u201cmana mamma lien \u0101r\u0101\u201d. Tad, kad es no\u0137eru \u201csavu mammu aiz astes\u201d, tad es varu atsac\u012bties no t\u0101 un m\u0113\u0123inu dar\u012bt cit\u0101d\u0101k. mana mamma ir Sib\u012brijas b\u0113rns, kas nekad nav dzird\u0113jis, ka vi\u0146u k\u0101ds m\u012bl. Ar\u012b es un mana m\u0101sa to nedzird\u0113j\u0101m, bet zinu, ka m\u016bsu b\u0113rni no mums to dzird.<\/p>\n<h3>Tev ir verb\u0101li svar\u012bgi, ka pasaka, ka tevi m\u012bl?<\/h3>\n<p>Ir t\u0101s m\u012blest\u012bbas d\u0101vanas, un, j\u0101, es esmu m\u016bzi\u0137e un esmu\u00a0<em>audi\u0101li\u0137e<\/em>\u00a0pa lielam, un man ir j\u0101dzird.<\/p>\n<h3>No kuriem dz\u012bves negaid\u012bt\u0101kajiem pav\u0113rsieniem un k\u0101zusiem jums ir visv\u0113rt\u012bg\u0101k\u0101s atzi\u0146as ieg\u016btas?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Dzintars:<\/strong>\u00a0Tas ir \u013coti dzi\u013c\u0161 un apjom\u012bgs jaut\u0101jums. Man patika, ka Ieva teica, ka vi\u0146a neb\u016btu bez manis kaut kas, ar\u012b es bez savas sievas neb\u016btu tas, kas esmu. M\u0113s ejam kop\u0101 situ\u0101cij\u0101s, kad kaut kas notiek t\u0101ds, kas nav pl\u0101nos bijis gaid\u012bts. Protams, dz\u012bv\u0113 notiek lietas \u0101rpus m\u016bsu ietekmes sf\u0113ras, t\u0101s ir finansi\u0101las gr\u016bt\u012bbas, pand\u0113mijas, kari. Probl\u0113mas m\u0113s varam p\u0101rvar\u0113t tad, ja esam kop\u0101 viens ar otru un kad turam roku uz pulsa taj\u0101, k\u0101 otrs j\u016btas. Gr\u016bt\u012bbas var p\u0101rvar\u0113t tikai divat\u0101, jo m\u0113s laul\u012bb\u0101 esam viena miesa. Jums ar\u012b varb\u016bt ir bijis t\u0101, ka br\u012bd\u012b, kad otram zvani, vi\u0146\u0161 saka \u2013 es tie\u0161i par tevi dom\u0101ju \u2026 Tas ir tas fenomens, kas ir ielikts \u0123imen\u0113, ka tu neesi vairs viens.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ieva:<\/strong>\u00a0Tagad tik popul\u0101ri ir da\u017e\u0101di semin\u0101ri un aicin\u0101jumi \u201cm\u012bl\u0113t sevi\u201d un t\u0101 joproj\u0101m. Nesen zi\u0146\u0101s las\u012bju, ka viena no vald\u012bbas sieviet\u0113m atkal iz\u0161\u0137iras, jo vi\u0146i esot tik at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bgi! Protams, m\u0113s esam at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bgi! Dievs m\u016bs t\u0101dus saliek kop\u0101 un tad veido kaut ko \u012bpa\u0161u. Tom\u0113r, ja izv\u0113los, ka mans at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bgums ir svar\u012bg\u0101ks, nek\u0101 tavs, tad ir gr\u016bti.<\/p>\n<h3>J\u016bs min\u0113j\u0101t \u2013 uztvert un sajust otra s\u0101pi, kas ir j\u016bsu metodes, k\u0101 to izdar\u012bt?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Ieva:<\/strong>\u00a0Man ir svar\u012bgs miers m\u0101j\u0101s un ka mums visiem ir labi, tad ir j\u0101sar\u016bp\u0113 \u0161ie\u00a0<em>\u201cairbagi\u201d<\/em>\u00a0jeb dro\u0161\u012bbas spilveni. Ja es j\u016btu, ka Dzintaram kaut kas \u2013 bals\u012b vai cit\u0101di, ja j\u016btu, ka aha, darb\u0101, kaut kas ir bijis, ir emocijas, tad m\u0113\u0123inu saprast situ\u0101ciju un piel\u0101goties, run\u0101jot taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b par vi\u0146am svar\u012bgo. Varb\u016bt taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b nolikt mal\u0101 vakari\u0146as, jo tu nedr\u012bksti taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b b\u016bt vienaldz\u012bgs pret otra s\u0101p\u0113m.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dzintars:<\/strong>\u00a0Mums ir katra sava atbild\u012bba. Sievietei ir vi\u0146as un v\u012brietim ir sava.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Nevajag aizmirst, ka m\u0113s k\u0101 v\u012brie\u0161i nedr\u012bkstam uzvelt savu atbild\u012bbas smagumu sav\u0101m siev\u0101m. (Dzintars Osem\u013cjaks)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>M\u0113s nevaram piepras\u012bt ar\u012b sievai atdot vi\u0146as r\u016bpi mums \u2013 r\u016bp\u0113ties par namu, \u0113dienu, lai ar\u012b, j\u0101 m\u0113s to varam dar\u012bt, bet j\u0101atceras, ka v\u012brs tom\u0113r k\u0101 t\u0113vs un nama priesteris nes galveno atbild\u012bbu p\u0101r namu. Probl\u0113mas m\u0113s p\u0101rrun\u0101jam, bet es nedodu risin\u0101t sievai savas probl\u0113mas, jo atbild\u012bba par t\u0101m ir mana.<\/p>\n<h3>J\u016bs esat t\u0101 iem\u0101c\u012bju\u0161ies neuzlikt otram to, kas nav vi\u0146a?<\/h3>\n<p>M\u0113s to m\u0101camies, protams, to var m\u0101c\u012bties visu m\u016b\u017eu. M\u0113s, piem\u0113ram, atbild\u012bbas m\u0101j\u0101 neesam t\u0101 atrun\u0101ju\u0161i, tas ir izveidojies dabiski.<\/p>\n<h3>Ien\u0101kot laul\u012bb\u0101 ar sav\u0101m pieredz\u0113m, bija kaut kas par ko s\u0101kum\u0101 negrib\u0113j\u0101s run\u0101t, k\u0101 tas ietekm\u0113ja attiec\u012bbas, vai tie jaut\u0101jumi, ko negrib\u0113j\u0101t p\u0101rrun\u0101t, tom\u0113r k\u0101d\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b izl\u012bda \u0101r\u0101 un n\u0101c\u0101s tos risin\u0101t?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Ieva:<\/strong>\u00a0Mums v\u0113ljoproj\u0101m ir lietas, bet m\u0113s veco dz\u012bvi nevelkam \u0101r\u0101, m\u0113s nesak\u0101m, ka tagad mums j\u0101izrun\u0101 ir tas, kas man notika 18 gados. M\u0101ksl\u012bgi tas nenotiek. Ja ir k\u0101da s\u0101pe un sakne, tad, ja ir drosme, m\u0113s to pasak\u0101m.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dzintars:<\/strong>\u00a0man savos 38 gados bija diezgan daudz noticies man\u0101 dz\u012bv\u0113. Apzin\u0101ti m\u0113s negribam rak\u0101ties un mekl\u0113t pag\u0101tn\u0113 vis kaut ko. M\u0113s ejam uz priek\u0161u. M\u0113s raksturus \u201csar\u012bv\u0113t\u201d varam skatoties uz priek\u0161u, nevis tikai uz atpaka\u013cu. Cit\u0101di malsimies visu laiku uz vietas. Ticu, ka ir j\u0101raug\u0101s uz priek\u0161u, pat aizmirstot to, kas ir bijis aiz muguras. T\u0101 ir t\u0101 piedo\u0161ana metode un vi\u0146as noteikumi. Ejot uz priek\u0161u, tu iem\u0101cies dz\u012bvot pa jaunam un veidot attiec\u012bbas pa jaunam. Daudz kas ir attiec\u012bb\u0101s j\u0101piedod viens otram un t\u0101 jau ir t\u0101 m\u012blest\u012bba. K\u0101 cit\u0101di tu otram pier\u0101d\u012bsi, ka vi\u0146u m\u012bli? Tikai piedodot.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Video apl\u0101de &#8220;Laul\u012bba &#8211; laim\u012bgi l\u012bdz m\u016b\u017ea galam?&#8221; ir sagatavota ar Sabiedr\u012bbas integr\u0101cijas fonda finansi\u0101lu atbalstu no Latvijas valsts bud\u017eeta l\u012bdzek\u013ciem. 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